Jim Hogue interviewed former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds about her gag order, and the 911 investigation on WGDR radio. Here are some some important highlights of the transcript printed in the Baltimore Chronicle & Sentinel:
JH: So, obviously, we have mid-level FBI people who have been told something. It was the mid-level FBI people who knew enough to squelch many of these investigations before they went further. So how did they know to do that? Can all of them have been incompetent?
SE: No. Absolutely not.
JH: So they got the word down from Mueller, probably.
SE: I cannot confirm that for sure, but I can tell you that there is so much involvement, that if they did let this information out, and if they were to hold real investigations–I’m not talking about this semi-investigation they’re holding under this “Joint Inquiry”–the pure show of the 9/11 Commission that has been getting the mass media’s attention. If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up. And I am appalled. I am really surprised. I’m taken back by seeing the mass media’s reaction to this. They are the window to our government’s operation and what are they doing?
JH: We’ve been screaming about it for a long time. And it goes on.
SE: And you see many people just turning away from these channels of mass media, and they’re just turning in to alternative providers, because they just see what’s happening.
Regarding who is being protected by the U.S. government:
JH: Are you allowed to say that it’s the Saudis?
SE: I cannot name any country. And I would emphasize that it’s plural. I understand the Saudis have been named because fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. However, the names of people from other countries, and semi-legit organizations from other countries, to this day, have not been made public.
JH: And the information that you have been gagged on has to do with that specifically.
SE: Correct. And specifically with that and their ties to people here in this country today.
JH: I understand why you can’t say anything about this, but there are several books out about the Bush ties to the Saudis and the bin Ladens in particular. And in David Griffin’s book, The New Pearl Harbor, there is a very good synopsis of the ISI, which is the Pakistani intelligence service. He shows the direct connections between the CIA, the ISI, and Mohamed Atta. He makes a very convincing case that the Pakistani ISI had been helping to plan 9/11 for a long time.
I don’t imagine that you are allowed to say much about that.
SE: You are correct. But I can tell you that the issue, on one side, boils down to money–a lot of money. And it boils down to people and their connections with this money, and that’s the portion that, even with this book, has not been mentioned to this day. Because then it starts touching some people in high places.
JH: Can you explain more about what money you are talking about?
SE: The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations.
You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points – and they [the intelligence community] are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing “foreign relations” which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.
Finally, Sibel implicates well known Americans:
JH: Let me read you a short quote from Dr. Griffin’s book, quoting from War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11 by Michel Chossudovsky and ask you to comment on it. “…The transfer of money to Atta [$325,000], in conjunction with the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week, [is] the missing link behind 9/11….The evidence confirms that al-Qaeda is supported by Pakistan’s ISI (and it is amply documented that) the ISI owes its existence to the CIA.”
SE: I cannot comment on that. But I can tell that once, and if, and when this issue gets to be, under real terms, investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally.
. . . So to just narrow it down and say al-Qaeda and the Saudis, or to say it’s what they had at the camp in Afghanistan, is extremely misleading. And we don’t hear the extent of the penetration that this organization and the sub-organizations have throughout the world, throughout their networks and throughout their various activities. It’s extremely sophisticated. And then you involve a significant amount of money into this equation. Then things start getting a lot of overlap– money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. That’s what I’m trying to convey without being too specific. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it’s getting into somebody’s political campaign, and somebody’s lobbying. And people don’t want to be traced back to this money.
The entire interview transcript can be found here.
Sibel Edmonds has a website which can be found here. The Boiling Frogs podcast series gives insight into the inner workings of the U.S. intelligence community.